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Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 9	Posted - 2013.08.06 14:34:00 - [1] - Quote I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 10	Posted - 2013.08.06 17:12:00 - [2] - Quote Did I mention that this could potentially add RAM space? No? Well now you know.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2013.08.06 18:36:00 - [3] - Quote But I gave more than one reason. It ruins gameplay.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 13	Posted - 2013.08.06 20:14:00 - [4] - Quote A-P-P-Baby wrote: Sorry Cap'n, can't say I've ever really noticed it. Lord knows I will tonight though. Yes...yes...let the rage flow through you. Trust me, you will notice it and want to kill yourself. Flyingconejo wrote: Save the RAM, CCP! Camera shaking from MD is not that bad. QQ
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.08.06 21:57:00 - [5] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: no , i like it Why? Mobius Kaethis wrote: Funny, I haven't noticed it either. Doesn't seem to stop me from shooting MD users in the face so I'm not really bothered by it. I call shenanigans!
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:41:00 - [6] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: hasn't it already been reduced along with the removal of the 'smoke screen' effect it gave off? First I heard of it. When was this? Even so, it's still pretty bad.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:28:00 - [7] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: Eh I'm usually against threads like this, if it's a big problem for you well eh Just don't touch the guns damage and radius. They finally got it right. Agreed
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.08.06 23:32:00 - [8] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: hasn't it already been reduced along with the removal of the 'smoke screen' effect it gave off? First I heard of it. When was this? Even so, it's still pretty bad. MD used to knock people's aim off balance back in beta. It was a poorly implemented mechanic and even MD users disliked it. The smoke was also more drastic in Chromosome, lingering around for several seconds instead of the little fart cloud we get now. I was never a fan of the camera shake myself, and I use the MD. I'd rather see this go away because it's too cheap. My memory must be failing me. I don't remember that in Chromosome.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 20	Posted - 2013.08.07 20:49:00 - [9] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever. Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death. Lillica Deathdealer wrote: Good luck not being shaken by an explosion, bro. And while you're at it take away the camera shake when an AR hits me as I'm scoped in when sniping. I find it inconvenient, so please remove this game mechanic that makes perfect sense. Lol Snipers are rarely, if ever, suppose to get hit since they're so far away. Everyone else is getting hit in possibly every direction. You might be a bad sniper. Johnny Guilt wrote: It's more annoying than anything and i dont think an explosion that far away but not killing you would jerk your gun as if someone slapped the scope.Go use a tac again and youll see what im talking about Yeah, I use Tact AR every now and then. The recoil for ADS should be reduced, but that's for another thread. ladwar wrote: im sorry to break this to you but 6 round at 60RoF is over 6 seconds not 4. plus it help MD with their lower DPS compared to other CQC and mid range rifles so its not going away. I haven't looked at the MD stats in a while. I figured it was slightly more than 60 RPM. My mistake. Even so, the MD is still a good weapon, explosion effects just make it ridiculous.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.08 13:21:00 - [10] - Quote ladwar wrote: WeapondigitX V7 wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: I don't normally come here because this forum format makes me QQ, but this this must be addressed! The camera shake in this game is outrageous and too exaggerated. With so many explosive weapons in this game it makes the Mass especially more powerful because it has six rounds a clip. That's a least four seconds where shooting my gun is uderly useless. Note I'm not saying the mass driver needs to be nerfed, but the effect range the camera shake needs to be reduced or removed all together. Also, I can be on the other side of a large room and those damn explosions shake the camera. It shakes more than any other game I ever played. BTW, why do flux grenades shake the camera? That's either a mistake or poor design choice. The camera shake should be reduced. Although I am fine with it being as high as it is when I am hit directly with explosive weapons. MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game. 138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would. even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS.... You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking.

Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.09 00:31:00 - [11] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: [quote=Spectre-M]Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death.. It doesnt mean that the effect from an explosions shouldnt disorient, just because its a sci-fi game with immortals. Why not? It's still outrageous that some explosion not effecting me shakes my camera.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.09 10:58:00 - [12] - Quote I had a long post, but I lose Internet connection.... thanks internet. ladwar wrote: MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game. 138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would. even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS.... You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking.[/quote] even if they miss 50% of the time the MLT AR still beats the proto MD direct damage dps... and lol no one armor tanks and i don't know why but its like a massive fear players have, even heavies. shrug and pop flux........ woashhh! bang bang bang +50 kill [/quote] I do use flux and so do smart MD users, your argument is invalid. The reason I said armor tanking is because ARs are slightly weak against armor. Don't try sell me that MD are underpowered, you're not mentioning the direct damage. Camera shake just shouldn't be so common, especially when I'm not taking damage.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.09 11:00:00 - [13] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: [quote=Spectre-M]Disagree. I like the realism of the effect. Mind you I have never been rocked by an explosion in real life, but I have a firm belief it would put you flat on your #@$!?. We're lucky it only shakes the ground under our feet. Chalk it up to dropsuit suspension, whatever Realism? You're an immortal computer brain part that doesn't fear death.. It doesnt mean that the effect from an explosions shouldnt disorient, just because its a sci-fi game with immortals. Why not? It's still outrageous that some explosion not effecting me shakes my camera. Shockwave. Shockwaves stun people, they don't create a mini earthquake that last a second.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.09 13:32:00 - [14] - Quote ladwar wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: ladwar wrote: WeapondigitX V7 wrote: ladwar wrote: MLT AR has a DPS of 425 so in less then 2 second it can kill most suits the MD has a direct shot DPS of best MD is 270 and getting a direct shot is much harder then with the AR to land 100% of shots so it take doubles the time to do the same damage as the most basic weapon in the game. 138 on splash so with splash is take 3 1/2 time longer to the same thing as an MLT AR would. even the standard SMG beats in damge with 350 DPS.... You're implying those AR guys have 100% accuracy all the time and the enemy isn't armor tanking. even if they miss 50% of the time the MLT AR still beats the proto MD direct damage dps... and lol no one armor tanks and i don't know why but its like a massive fear players have, even heavies. shrug and pop flux........ woashhh! bang bang bang +50 kill I do use flux and so do smart MD users, your argument is invalid. The reason I said armor tanking is because ARs are slightly weak against armor. Don't try sell me that MD are underpowered, you're not mentioning the direct damage. Camera shake just shouldn't be so common, especially when I'm not taking damage. actually that was the only thing i was talking about was direct damage. please learn to read better. and you don't/shouldn't need to be in range to receive damage for it to shake. MD in damage are weak for damage but make up for it in other area.. wait i feel like i have said this before... i have. its like talking to bricks but more creepy to do so. and you never told me how my point was invalid you just said you use the same combo and if your going to quote do it right i hate fix other people quoting; you didn't even hit the limit on quotes so why you mess it up? I'm using a phone, give me a break for not quoting correctly. Touch screens suck. And the argument is invalid because we both have the same gear so should have an equal chance of winning. Of course, there are other factors like positioning and strategy involved. I forgot mention in the last post that most people don't have 50% accuracy. My source? Well Dust doesn't count accuracy that I'm aware of, but BF3 and almost all CoDs do (lolcod). Those games have massive aim-assist and common accuracy range between 15-35%. Anything outside that range is uncommon. And Dust, as of now, doesn't have aim-assist. I'm not going to do the stats of what this adds up to because I need to get back to work. As for me misreading direct and splash damage......oops. Doesn't change the fact that AR and SMG users aren't as accurate as you think. It may be even less accurate in this game because- wait for it......camera shake. And way to make it personal by comparing me to bricks. I never attempted to insult you. Good job. The term is "brick wall" by the way.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.08.10 12:49:00 - [15] - Quote Just did the math. Assuming that the AR user has 25% accuracy, the DPS is 106.25. It's 134.16 for the SMG if the accuracy is 35%. Very few people are this accurate. Note these are for the basic versions of the weapons and these numbers are most likely even lower if there are explosions everywhere. My point stands, reduce or remove camera shake.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 27	Posted - 2013.08.17 12:30:00 - [16] - Quote I heard someone made a similar thread after I made this one, so I'm bumping it.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2013.08.17 15:12:00 - [17] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: . and honestly never noticed the camera shake because I don't stay still. What does that even mean? It effects you whether you're moving or not.